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Post by swankivy on Oct 15, 2010 0:16:55 GMT -5
Sharing Beliefs
How comfortable are you with sharing your spiritual, religious, or philosophical beliefs with others? Do you only discuss these sorts of things with your closest friends/family, or would you tell/have you told schoolmates, co-workers, or acquaintances?
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Post by blondiviolette on Oct 15, 2010 5:55:36 GMT -5
I'm pretty comfortable sharing those sorts of things with others but the problems is that some people are real jerks when it comes to this topic. If someone disagrees with me and I disagree with them, I can debate them for sure and might even end up in some kind of verbal war (but not always serious) on both sides, both of us trying to get our point across but I don't lose respect for someone else as a person because of what they believe; it is just their point of view which is not respected, but if a person is very bad and nasty because of their beliefs then I won't respect them as a person. In regards to being comfortable, some just can't handle talking about this kind of stuff. They're said to be 'taboo topics' and I understand if someone doesn't want to talk but they should just say so, I am more cautious about talking spirituality/religion with others now cause I have been deleted from friend lists after making a comment about it so there can be touchy people, and I really wouldn't want to be friends with someone like that who just so easily cuts someone cause they can't handle what they say especially when it was nothing horrible or provoking, simply cause they don't believe in the same thing; gosh if I culled people out of my life whose views I didn't believe then there would be lots I wouldn't talk to now! Also if you have an unpopular opinion on the subject if it was on the internet then it can lead to others suggesting you're a troll or backlash/hate comments-mail because they are topics people are very passionate about and some take it over the top and go insane if someone doesn't agree with them, so I worry about being too open with *everyone*, however, being an honest person I'll probably say my bit anyway if the subject came up. Everyone has the right to think what they think but actually I get kind of annoyed when someone makes some comment about how taboo or wrong it is to give opinions on religion etc; like why be a baby about it you know, if you don't wanna say something then don't say it but don't act like a child as if someone has uttered 'Voldemort' or whatever. Basically with close friends like you and my other friends there have been good conversations around spirituality/religion/philosophy, some really deep & meaningful/beautiful stuff, it has been lovely discussing it and not uncomfortable at all. And in constructed social groups/clubs where a bunch of people think similarly there are interesting convos about spirituality but of course no-one would feel uncomfortable there cause everyone thinks the same way and the group is talking about it, haha. I love hearing others views on this but often don't know how to articulate my thoughts into the right words so get quite stumped at what exactly to say, well that happened last time at a club meeting. Yes, so that's it...
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Post by SHO! on Oct 15, 2010 23:11:49 GMT -5
I love discussing this stuff, speculating about origins of it, why some people feel they needed and others don't, where it could all end up. Yes, I like discussing it... as long as there will be a discussion. Unfortunately, most inventors of religion understood the weakness of their system if scrutinized and consequently put in safeguards to dissuade discussion, philosophization, and analyzation. Which are all avenues that, if "walked" methodically and intelligently, would lead to the destruction of their gambit, i.e. "don't even begin to question the legitimacy of this bull$h!t or you'll be punished!" The self preserving factor of religion is dogma and the dogmatic practices of blind faith are rarely open for actual debate. I love hearing others views on this but often don't know how to articulate my thoughts into the right words so get quite stumped at what exactly to say, well that happened last time at a club meeting. Yes, so that's it... *cough*cavetroll*cough* Death eater!
On a separate note: Why don't any of the students at Hogwarts have cellphones, Ipods, PSPs, or Nintendo DSs?? I mean quite of few of them live in the human world in the off-season, right? Why don't they even have the wizarding equivalent of those things? If all of your pictures move, you can put memories in a pensive bowl, and you can wrap a voice up in an envelope then why not a music video in a card or a trinket? What, wizard kids don't like music? I don't think it's because technology is confiscated, I think I've seen kids with digital watches and you can't tell me Harry's glasses weren't made at the British equivalent of Lens Crafters.
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Post by wright on Oct 16, 2010 13:32:23 GMT -5
I'm an atheist. Most of my immediate family and friends don't talk about these kinds of things much. We already know each other well enough to know our opinions on religion / spirituality; it's not a subject that often comes up.
As to the comic... I like that Weaver is still wary of Alix. He's had a far more negative experience than Dax with this new world. It's a believable aspect of his character. Not that I think Alix has done anything that really justifies that paranoia, just that Weaver's suspicion fits what we know about him so far.
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Post by M Lee on Oct 19, 2010 7:46:56 GMT -5
Also being an atheist, I find it difficult to broach the subject without being ganged up on, or ridiculed/scorned for my inability to understand this "universal truth". When I meet a liberal believer, I enjoy the unfolding discussion, since dancing around the unknown can be enlightening. And verbally sparring with post-modernists causes me have to increase my scientific knowledge, which isn't really hard considering how little versed I am in anything more than Planck time and the singularity cosmology usually revolves around:b. Kind of shameful how much I've read of Richard Dawkins, but still haven't gotten around to his ground breaking tome, The Selfish Gene
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Post by synesthesia on Oct 22, 2010 22:56:44 GMT -5
Not very, my beliefs are internal. It's hard to put them into words.
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Post by Corinne on Oct 23, 2010 9:06:45 GMT -5
One more atheist here. I'm very comfortable speaking about my beliefs, and usually people aren't hostile to them, because I'm very curious about religious beliefsāI'm thinking of doing a minor in religious studies. Religion fascinates me even though I don't believe in it myself. I know people who are extremely religious and they love to discuss religious matters with me because they know I won't put down their beliefs, so they respect mine in turn.
I must say, though, not everyone is respectful. It really irks me that it's viewed as acceptable to put down atheist beliefs because it wouldn't be considered religious intolerance to do so. People who threaten me with hell are especially irritating.
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