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Post by swankivy on Dec 3, 2010 19:27:23 GMT -5
Photographic Evidence
A video that documents something incredible is often called "fake," but that's especially true in the digital age. Do you think the video that's being recorded in this issue is more likely to be judged legitimate given that it is a) filmed by an amateur before individuals had video-capable computers and b) recorded in 1987? Or do you think it would still be completely dismissed by most people?
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Post by blondiviolette on Dec 3, 2010 21:47:16 GMT -5
Yeah it really is hard to tell what video is fake and what isn't. If I hear that something is considered fake but was made in order to trick audiences into thinking it's real, then I don't pay attention to that anymore because it just seems useless to watch something which is not real and don't wanna give attention to those who purposely want to pull wool over eyes. Just like magicians, sit there for 2 hours watching a stunt which is not going to be unpredictable even though they go on as if anything could happen, someone disappears, oh yeah you really made them disappear *yawn*, scientifically impossible.
In this video there would probably be a handful of people who believed and a handful who didn't just like there are these days. Thing is with such professions as magicians who can levitate people, Ivy's video would be dismissed more readily because of these tricks being used so often in the world, as well as fame/money hungry filmmakers who trick the public with such things as ufo sightings, false ghost shots and the like. The ones who are out to claim a quick dollar have ruined belief for so many of us that it is really hard to sit back and truly believe what is being shown unless in certain circumstances, whatever they are showing is right there in front of us. Perhaps with Ivy since she isn't always up in the sky, and talks to people, if the public saw her like the filmmakers then they'd of course believe provided she raised herself higher than that which can already be used in illusion tricks or flew; but on a screen how can anyone ever be sure?. That's the problem, these filmmakers don't usually have the evidence with them and ONLY on a screen; but Ivy is right there with them, so they have more of a shot of being believed than the others do if they show the public.
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Post by SHO! on Dec 4, 2010 18:35:54 GMT -5
Photographic EvidenceA video that documents something incredible is often called "fake," but that's especially true in the digital age. Do you think the video that's being recorded in this issue is more likely to be judged legitimate given that it is a) filmed by an amateur before individuals had video-capable computers and b) recorded in 1987? Or do you think it would still be completely dismissed by most people? I think with humans, in most situations, they tend to believe what they want to believe, what they're told to believe (by an authority figure), or what is more comfortable to believe. There's that famous experiment with the "invisible" guy in the gorilla suit walking through people passing balls back and forth. So I think "Steph" (and others) will probably choose to believe the guys are trying to trick her and are playing a joke on her. Further, I feel that anyone that does believe the video (and is vocal about it) will probably be the excitable, almost zealot type that destroys credibility with their over the top notions and actions.[...]I don't pay attention to that anymore because it just seems useless to watch something which is not real and don't wanna give attention to those who purposely want to pull wool over eyes. Just like magicians, sit there for 2 hours watching a stunt [...] I SO don't like magicians (except maybe Penn&Teller and the masked magician)! This is someone that decided that their passion in life would be to make fools of all of the rest of us?! What sacks!
"Look at me! I'm so much smarter than you! See my hand is empty? Nope! A coin! STUPID! See that lady in the cage? Yes? What lady, that's a tiger, you moron! What Statue of Liberty? It's invivisble... no it isn't! Idiots!!"[...]tricks being used so often in the world, as well as fame/money hungry filmmakers who trick the public with such things as ufo sightings, false ghost shots and the like. The ones who are out to claim a quick dollar have ruined belief for so many of us that it is really hard to sit back and truly believe what is being shown unless in certain circumstances, whatever they are showing is right there in front of us. [...] There are people that try to trick or scam other people for money, power. or fame and though I despise their type I can understand it (though I wish severe prison time and misery on them for their evil actions). Their motivation comes from a sense of greed and being too self centered. But then you have these jack-wipes that make crop circles, or fake big foot footprints, etc. I have no sympathy nor understanding for these people. The only motivation I can even discern is that they like tricking people so the can snicker quietly and anonymously behind the scenes and away from anyone finding out. It's akin to someone urinating in random food and drinks in an office refrigerator and then walking away, never to know f it was even consumed or just ruined someone's meal. Or egging a someone's house that you never see (not even when they clan it up). What was the point? Just to know that you hurt some random person somewhere?
It's almost like the opposite of picking up litter on the street when no one is looking or making anonymous donations to toy/clothing/food drives. You feel good for doing what you know is right even if there is no one to acknowledge the deed. Are those "trolls" getting some sort of similar satisfaction for harming others even if there is no one to acknowledge that it was done or give them credit for the evil works?
Sometimes pondering why people do things that I do not readily understand makes me very sad for humanity.
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