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Post by pennyanna on Jan 30, 2010 9:30:07 GMT -5
This is me assuming that swankivy has no obections. xD I have made a TV Tropes page for Negative One. At the moment it has virtually nothing on it, but I am working on that. \o/
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Post by swankivy on Jan 30, 2010 20:47:46 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind a TV Tropes page. It's a badge of honor. LOL!
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Post by pennyanna on Jan 31, 2010 11:02:14 GMT -5
Well, Negative One is quite clearly a notable webcomic. Now, if only I knew how to get images...
I put up my (probably rather sub-standard) summary, along with a list of tropes that is not terribly long. xD
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Post by swankivy on Jan 31, 2010 13:15:05 GMT -5
Cool. (And, anyone reading this, feel free to suggest lists of Tropes that figure into the comic, and maybe pennyanna will add them if you don't know how or don't want to edit TV Tropes. I only know of TV Tropes stuff very marginally.) I'm happy you think the comic is "notable." Short list of things I'd fix:Meri Lin and Lissa Lee actually don't have hyphens in their names. (If you fix this, there's two instances of "Meri-Lin" and one instance of "Lissa-Lee" to find.) "Terms out to be" seems like you meant "turns out to be." You linked #0159 ("Open Window") but labeled it #0158. Short list of stuff that you might consider changing if you want:When you introduce the next three "hidden" narrators, maybe advise in the heading that the comic "has begun to feature three more narrators" instead of just "has begun to feature." Dax and Weaver being from the same world is only very strongly implied--not stated outright--so I understood why you said "probably." But just FYI, yeah, that's canon. With regards to human characters' races, mentioning Meri Lin's being Asian makes sense since it figures heavily into some of the problems with her family, but I wondered if there was a reason for the mentioning of Theresa's race but not any of the white characters. (I guess most people will assume white if not said otherwise, though.) With regards to the "webcomic time," what you currently have isn't accurate . . . right now it says "at present it's always at least five weeks before each storyline gets updated," while actually because of the unpredictable narrator rotation it is sometimes as frequent as every other week. (Ivy is currently in that slot; she's been featured every other week for about a year now.) Sometimes it can be longer than five weeks because of the characters not experiencing much action getting bumped around; I think my current record is almost three months of hiatus with Adele. Any chance the TV Tropes article might feature, at your next edit, a mention of the comic's running time and consistency? I'm pretty proud of the fact that it's been updating every single Friday since May 2005 and hasn't gone on hiatus, so maybe that's part of what makes it "notable." Short list of comments:In the bit about "Single Biome Planet": Out of curiosity, what in your opinion was an implication that the human world is unusual in not being one? It's cool that you point out the "averted" trope of aliens speaking English. "Portal network": Indeed. Heh. (I know I'm not the first to do such a thing, but I don't think I have any idea how common it is.) I'm amused by "Color Coded Wizardry." What did you mean by "if only I knew how to get images"?
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Post by pennyanna on Feb 1, 2010 4:24:57 GMT -5
Firstly - ack, I am a terribly typist. >_< I should rely on spellcheck less. *fixes* I know that Dax and Weaver being from the same world is canon - I think you confirmed it in the comments once - but it's never been explicitly stated in the comic, like you said, so yeah. About single biome planet - *runs off to the archives* I should have tried to find the comic I am thinking of first, I think. Adele's comment in the eighth panel here is what I was thinking of, though reading it back I may have completely misinterpreted it. And a lot of pages have an image on them, like this one, but I have no idea how to do that. >_< I dunno why I mentioned that Theresa was black. Possibly because she does actually fit a few race-specific tropes that I may add.
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Post by swankivy on Feb 1, 2010 9:53:55 GMT -5
Ah, re "single biome planet," I *thought* you might be talking about that comment! (I thought of it immediately when you suggested this, but didn't think it would have been enough for you to go on to list it as a trope.) But it's hard to tell whether Adele was talking about physical features of the various worlds or if she was thinking culture or something else, especially since right after that she goes on to talk about something completely different in reference to the human world.
And race-specific tropes, I guess we'll see what comes up . . . speaking of those, I bet Meri Lin's parents fall into a few of those too. . . .
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Post by pennyanna on Feb 1, 2010 10:34:53 GMT -5
Possibly my memory of that comment was a little skewed. xD But I did say 'implied'.
*looks through race tropes* Hmm.
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Post by swankivy on Feb 1, 2010 14:10:28 GMT -5
You know who should REALLY be in on this? SHO! He is notoriously good at this sort of thing, and knows the comic material very well, but would probably end up sacrificing at least a day drowning in TV Tropes. (I hear this is very common, actually.) I might look around the site and see if I can suggest anything. And once it's in a state where we personally are finished fiddling with it, I could always give it a text edit if any of the typos remain.
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Post by SHO! on Feb 6, 2010 1:18:01 GMT -5
You know who should REALLY be in on this? SHO! He is notoriously good at this sort of thing, and knows the comic material very well, but would probably end up sacrificing at least a day drowning in TV Tropes. Well, just off, I was thinking that in the "Color Coded Wizardry" trope you might want to mention that regardless of dimensional origin, most (if not all) of the prophet/seers have red hair and that on Ailashuo the red-headed children are singled out for the life of a prophet.
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Post by swankivy on Feb 6, 2010 1:33:12 GMT -5
The red hair thing doesn't extend to other dimensions actually. It's definitely correlated with being a prophet in Adele's world, but nobody from Shio has red hair, and there's no human standard since prophets occur so rarely. I know I didn't explore it comprehensively, but as a Fun Factâ„¢, it's notable that some Ailaoan prophets don't have red hair.
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Post by SHO! on Feb 6, 2010 20:29:06 GMT -5
The red hair thing doesn't extend to other dimensions actually. It's definitely correlated with being a prophet in Adele's world, but nobody from Shio has red hair, and there's no human standard since prophets occur so rarely. I know I didn't explore it comprehensively, but as a Fun Factâ„¢, it's notable that some Ailaoan prophets don't have red hair. Odd, that Tabitha has red hair as well. Hm, I think this author has stuck us with a Red-Hairring. J'accuse!
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Post by swankivy on Feb 6, 2010 23:29:45 GMT -5
Correction: Tabitha has ORANGE hair. LOL!
And I guess since the only human prophet Negative One readers have gotten to see is Tabitha, redheads-being-prophets in the human world too might not be too farfetched an assumption. . . .
But it should be noted that, well, the next human prophet isn't a redhead. . . .
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Post by SHO! on Mar 13, 2010 0:44:48 GMT -5
But it should be noted that, well, the next human prophet isn't a redhead. . . . But based on her name (especially as compared to others) she should be a blonde, right?
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Post by swankivy on Mar 13, 2010 0:54:38 GMT -5
But based on her name (especially as compared to others) she should be a blonde, right? Wut?? What's her name got to do with her hair color?
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Post by SHO! on Mar 13, 2010 2:03:29 GMT -5
But based on her name (especially as compared to others) she should be a blonde, right? Wut?? What's her name got to do with her hair color? Because her name is blonder than other blondes whose names are brunetter. Like a redhead named Ginger, someone with black hair named Raven, or a blond named Bambi or Dolph, it just fits. Not that there couldn't be a blonde named Raven. It would just confuse simple minded people like me.
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