Post by swankivy on Mar 31, 2010 22:47:20 GMT -5
Okay, guys, help me out with deciding whether these TV Tropes should be added.
(Also, pennyanna, since you seem to be the one who knows what she's doing, do you think you could add these if you think they're appropriate?)
I've found quite a few more in my spare time just kinda wandering around there whenever I have a moment. So please weigh in on whether you guys think these should be added.
Comic in General:
Ruined FOREVER: Not so obvious to people who don't read my comments (or my private e-mails, of course), but I've been told on a few occasions that I RUINED EVERYTHING and a reader is NEVER GOING TO READ AGAIN because of what happened in #0159. (Well, after it became clear that either there wouldn't be a happy ending or the happy ending was going to be delayed indefinitely.) This Trope only refers to fans being hysterical, not when an author or production company actually DOES ruin their franchise by doing something idiotic, so I think my story fits here. :/
Archive Binge: Most people who are current readers of Negative One did this at some point. It's definitely archive-binge-able.
Character Development: Hang on, why is this a Trope?
Mysterious Past: This Trope only really refers to people whose past is never revealed but only hinted at, so if that's the case it'd only apply to Dax and Weaver, but Adele kinda has this too as she doesn't KNOW her past, and then Tabitha is the same way because she has no memories of hers.
Inner Monologue: Quite a lot of THAT in the comic.
From the Ivy/Amanda storyline:
Green Eyes: There's no explanation for why she'd randomly have that color eyes. Her dad's are blue, and her mom's Asian, so what's the deal?
GooGooGodlike: This sort of thing seems to reference babies like Amanda, but the trope is not explained very well so I'm not sure if it applies.
Unusual Ears: Obviously the already-inserted "pointy ears" trope is more specific, but this applies too as it seems to be a trait that identifies the people with unusual abilities and whatnot, and there's not much of a reason for it.
Flight: Derrp. Hey, they even mention telekinetically powered flight on this page.
I Thought Everyone Could Do That: Definitely how baby Ivy seems to feel about her telekinetic powers until she's older; she doesn't seem to consciously recognize that nobody else can move things without touching them, and actually gets frustrated at people's reactions or at being asked to use her abilities for things other people can't do. (That'll disappear when she figures out how unique she is, but she can't do that as a toddler.)
Cute Bruiser: Yeah, the child who's much more powerful than she looks fits here easily.
Badass Adorable: If the above applies, so does this.
Hands Off Parenting: This pretty much applies to Melanie in the Ivy storyline.
Free Range Children: Melanie again, maybe this one's actually better. It specifically talks about kids ages 7 to 9 (Melanie is 8) being surprisingly self-sufficient and going all over the place without encountering anyone's concern.
Meri Lin/Fred storyline:
Mixed Marriage: The Trope page is right about this being one of the causes for conflict in the story. (The photo there even has an Asian woman and a Caucasian man as the illustration!)
Parental Marriage Veto: Hey, the page even mentions the parents refusing to let people get married because they're "of the WRONG race"!
My Own Private I Do: Meri Lin and Fred obviously do this in #0007.
Fainting: This page makes fun of people fainting as an emotional reaction in fiction. Surprise.
It's Probably Nothing: This is how Fred deals with the unexplained happenings Meri Lin keeps describing until she is able to prove to him beyond a shadow of a doubt that their baby is moving things without using her hands.
Gut Feeling: Meri Lin "just knows" sometimes, and there are a couple rather surprising times when she turns out to be right. Sadly she doesn't seem to be right when it matters most, though.
Adele storyline:
Portal Pool: Darn it. I have nothing to say here. My comic completely falls into this one--random portal to another land in a body of water, often placed in such a way that an unsuspecting person will get sucked into it and spirited off to another land with no way home! (This applies to Dax and Weaver, obviously, but they don't know it.)
Pardon My Klingon: This Trope makes fun of the use of pretend science fiction languages to say offensive things. Adele herself doesn't do this, but you see Shelshay at it when she insults Tabitha in #0024, using the phrase da falaitha suilah, which is later revealed to basically mean that Shelshay thinks Tabitha needs to pull her head out of her ass.
Benevolent Alien Invasion: Not so sure this one applies, but mainly I'm unsure because it's not obvious in the story that the Shioans "settled" Adele's world, Ailashuo. Ailaoans have no "Ailaoan" language, for starters; they speak Shioan. They have some of their own customs, but the Shioans run things, and several of the other dimensions are suggested to have been "conquered" by Shio as well.
Because Destiny Says So: This Trope isn't real heavy in the Adele storyline, but some of it has to trickle in anytime you have characters who know the future. Adele has to be sent to the human world because . . . SHE WAS CHOSEN, darn it!
Con Lang: a.k.a. "constructed language." This supposedly only applies to conlangs that contain enough vocabulary so readers/fans can say their own phrases, and though I'd kind of argue I didn't give much, certain people seem to have found a way (lookin' at you, SHO!).
Weaver:
Cute Little Fangs: Protruding pointy teeth for "unconventional cuteness"? Right here, folks. Dax sometimes too, actually. Weaver's are always the top canines and Dax's are the bottoms.
Pintsized Powerhouse: Might not really be very obvious yet (except perhaps in his attitude), but Weaver's stronger and more courageous than he seems, and really the only time this showed up was when he had his whole escape scene in #0118. He is actually willing to directly attack people who are much bigger than he is. Which you'll see eventually.
Dax:
The Big Guy: Fits him well, as he's obviously the comic's powerhouse and he's the hunter.
Gentle Giant: Of course; I love how the Tropes page talks about how the scary monster guy loves children and puppies.
In Harmony With Nature: To some extent Weaver does this too, but it's more of a Dax Trope.
Averted Tropes:
No Periods Period: I'm kinda proud of myself that Adele brings up "the monthly time" shortly after having traveled to the human world and has her whole moment of philosophizing about the concept of being similar to human women, but then that whole concept is not a plotline leading to pregnancy or any of the other storylines the Trope page indicates are usually responsible for bothering to mention this.
Nobody Poops: Similar to the above, there are many references to people taking a crap in the comic. Weaver talks about where he poops when he's imprisoned; Dax expresses dismay when he mistakenly thinks Weaver is discussing pooping in the cave; and of course the baby, being in diapers, has her poop dealt with often in clear view of the comic storyline.
Dreaming Of Things To Come: Meri Lin averts this because she frequently dreams of things happening with her daughter and . . . they DON'T happen. It's especially interesting that this happens because Meri Lin is sort of suggested to be very slightly psychic sometimes as she correctly guesses her baby's sex and talks about "women's intuition," yet her dreams are wrong. (Adele sometimes does dream of real things to come, but in no story-significant way as such.) The Trope says that dreams are omitted in fiction unless they're significant, and in my comic's case, that's not true at all.
Comment if you wanna!
(Also, pennyanna, since you seem to be the one who knows what she's doing, do you think you could add these if you think they're appropriate?)
I've found quite a few more in my spare time just kinda wandering around there whenever I have a moment. So please weigh in on whether you guys think these should be added.
Comic in General:
Ruined FOREVER: Not so obvious to people who don't read my comments (or my private e-mails, of course), but I've been told on a few occasions that I RUINED EVERYTHING and a reader is NEVER GOING TO READ AGAIN because of what happened in #0159. (Well, after it became clear that either there wouldn't be a happy ending or the happy ending was going to be delayed indefinitely.) This Trope only refers to fans being hysterical, not when an author or production company actually DOES ruin their franchise by doing something idiotic, so I think my story fits here. :/
Archive Binge: Most people who are current readers of Negative One did this at some point. It's definitely archive-binge-able.
Character Development: Hang on, why is this a Trope?
Mysterious Past: This Trope only really refers to people whose past is never revealed but only hinted at, so if that's the case it'd only apply to Dax and Weaver, but Adele kinda has this too as she doesn't KNOW her past, and then Tabitha is the same way because she has no memories of hers.
Inner Monologue: Quite a lot of THAT in the comic.
From the Ivy/Amanda storyline:
Green Eyes: There's no explanation for why she'd randomly have that color eyes. Her dad's are blue, and her mom's Asian, so what's the deal?
GooGooGodlike: This sort of thing seems to reference babies like Amanda, but the trope is not explained very well so I'm not sure if it applies.
Unusual Ears: Obviously the already-inserted "pointy ears" trope is more specific, but this applies too as it seems to be a trait that identifies the people with unusual abilities and whatnot, and there's not much of a reason for it.
Flight: Derrp. Hey, they even mention telekinetically powered flight on this page.
I Thought Everyone Could Do That: Definitely how baby Ivy seems to feel about her telekinetic powers until she's older; she doesn't seem to consciously recognize that nobody else can move things without touching them, and actually gets frustrated at people's reactions or at being asked to use her abilities for things other people can't do. (That'll disappear when she figures out how unique she is, but she can't do that as a toddler.)
Cute Bruiser: Yeah, the child who's much more powerful than she looks fits here easily.
Badass Adorable: If the above applies, so does this.
Hands Off Parenting: This pretty much applies to Melanie in the Ivy storyline.
Free Range Children: Melanie again, maybe this one's actually better. It specifically talks about kids ages 7 to 9 (Melanie is 8) being surprisingly self-sufficient and going all over the place without encountering anyone's concern.
Meri Lin/Fred storyline:
Mixed Marriage: The Trope page is right about this being one of the causes for conflict in the story. (The photo there even has an Asian woman and a Caucasian man as the illustration!)
Parental Marriage Veto: Hey, the page even mentions the parents refusing to let people get married because they're "of the WRONG race"!
My Own Private I Do: Meri Lin and Fred obviously do this in #0007.
Fainting: This page makes fun of people fainting as an emotional reaction in fiction. Surprise.
It's Probably Nothing: This is how Fred deals with the unexplained happenings Meri Lin keeps describing until she is able to prove to him beyond a shadow of a doubt that their baby is moving things without using her hands.
Gut Feeling: Meri Lin "just knows" sometimes, and there are a couple rather surprising times when she turns out to be right. Sadly she doesn't seem to be right when it matters most, though.
Adele storyline:
Portal Pool: Darn it. I have nothing to say here. My comic completely falls into this one--random portal to another land in a body of water, often placed in such a way that an unsuspecting person will get sucked into it and spirited off to another land with no way home! (This applies to Dax and Weaver, obviously, but they don't know it.)
Pardon My Klingon: This Trope makes fun of the use of pretend science fiction languages to say offensive things. Adele herself doesn't do this, but you see Shelshay at it when she insults Tabitha in #0024, using the phrase da falaitha suilah, which is later revealed to basically mean that Shelshay thinks Tabitha needs to pull her head out of her ass.
Benevolent Alien Invasion: Not so sure this one applies, but mainly I'm unsure because it's not obvious in the story that the Shioans "settled" Adele's world, Ailashuo. Ailaoans have no "Ailaoan" language, for starters; they speak Shioan. They have some of their own customs, but the Shioans run things, and several of the other dimensions are suggested to have been "conquered" by Shio as well.
Because Destiny Says So: This Trope isn't real heavy in the Adele storyline, but some of it has to trickle in anytime you have characters who know the future. Adele has to be sent to the human world because . . . SHE WAS CHOSEN, darn it!
Con Lang: a.k.a. "constructed language." This supposedly only applies to conlangs that contain enough vocabulary so readers/fans can say their own phrases, and though I'd kind of argue I didn't give much, certain people seem to have found a way (lookin' at you, SHO!).
Weaver:
Cute Little Fangs: Protruding pointy teeth for "unconventional cuteness"? Right here, folks. Dax sometimes too, actually. Weaver's are always the top canines and Dax's are the bottoms.
Pintsized Powerhouse: Might not really be very obvious yet (except perhaps in his attitude), but Weaver's stronger and more courageous than he seems, and really the only time this showed up was when he had his whole escape scene in #0118. He is actually willing to directly attack people who are much bigger than he is. Which you'll see eventually.
Dax:
The Big Guy: Fits him well, as he's obviously the comic's powerhouse and he's the hunter.
Gentle Giant: Of course; I love how the Tropes page talks about how the scary monster guy loves children and puppies.
In Harmony With Nature: To some extent Weaver does this too, but it's more of a Dax Trope.
Averted Tropes:
No Periods Period: I'm kinda proud of myself that Adele brings up "the monthly time" shortly after having traveled to the human world and has her whole moment of philosophizing about the concept of being similar to human women, but then that whole concept is not a plotline leading to pregnancy or any of the other storylines the Trope page indicates are usually responsible for bothering to mention this.
Nobody Poops: Similar to the above, there are many references to people taking a crap in the comic. Weaver talks about where he poops when he's imprisoned; Dax expresses dismay when he mistakenly thinks Weaver is discussing pooping in the cave; and of course the baby, being in diapers, has her poop dealt with often in clear view of the comic storyline.
Dreaming Of Things To Come: Meri Lin averts this because she frequently dreams of things happening with her daughter and . . . they DON'T happen. It's especially interesting that this happens because Meri Lin is sort of suggested to be very slightly psychic sometimes as she correctly guesses her baby's sex and talks about "women's intuition," yet her dreams are wrong. (Adele sometimes does dream of real things to come, but in no story-significant way as such.) The Trope says that dreams are omitted in fiction unless they're significant, and in my comic's case, that's not true at all.
Comment if you wanna!